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'66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 5:34 pm
by Mikel
Hello,
I was helping a friend of mine with the A/C in his car, a '66 Toronado.

The system had been working well until it lost its charge last year. We pulled a vacuum (it held for 30 minutes) and began adding refrigerant (R152A). It didn't see to be drawing much refrigerant and both the high and low sides both were stuck at 75- 80PSI, after about 10oz - The low side never went down with the compressor spinning. At the same time, we noticed an audible leak in the front seal of the A6 compressor, so that explains the initial failure. We stopped there.

The seal is an easy fix. What concerns me is the equal pressure on both sides with the compressor running, which makes me question the compressor. Am I overthinking it?

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm
by JohnHere
It could be the compressor. Is it the original?

What refrigerant did it have when it lost its entire charge?

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 6:34 pm
by Mikel
It was an old A6 I had that I resealed it some years ago. I used a lip shaft seal, rather than the ceramic seal. It is leaking from there after a few summers of working well.

It had Duracool, a hydrocarbon refrigerant.

Thanks.

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 6:41 am
by Cusser
JohnHere wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm It could be the compressor. Is it the original?
Disclaimer - I'm NOT an AC professional. But it seems a good time for a brand new compressor to help with both of your issues, contact board sponsor ackits.com

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 9:32 am
by tbirdtbird
How long did you pull a vacuum?
The markings on the low side gauge are very inadequate. If you do not have a vacuum gauge you would need to vac for at least an hr.
Also if you used the gauge markings to show that it held vac, then you were probably misled

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 1:12 pm
by Tim
Cusser wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 6:41 am
JohnHere wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm It could be the compressor. Is it the original?
Disclaimer - I'm NOT an AC professional. But it seems a good time for a brand new compressor to help with both of your issues, contact board sponsor ackits.com
In this case, please do not contact the board sponsor. They don't care to deal with the issues related to R152a.

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 2:42 pm
by Mikel
tbirdtbird wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 9:32 am How long did you pull a vacuum?
The markings on the low side gauge are very inadequate. If you do not have a vacuum gauge you would need to vac for at least an hr.
Also if you used the gauge markings to show that it held vac, then you were probably misled
Half hour. I have a standard set of gauges. Thanks.

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 2:59 pm
by Tim
Turn the compressor shaft using a rachet and cover the suction port with your thumb. See if you have suction directly from the compressor. A6 are pretty solid compressors besides the normal shaft seal leaks.

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 3:01 pm
by Mikel
Tim wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 2:59 pm Turn the compressor shaft using a rachet and cover the suction port with your thumb. See if you have suction directly from the compressor. A6 are pretty solid compressors besides the normal shaft seal leaks.
Thank you.

Re: '66 Oldsmobile problems

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:26 pm
by bohica2xo
I really can't say how the POA will perform on Keyboard Duster.

Depending on what low side port you were connected to the readings can be all over the place at low charge

Side tap whatever can you are using and dump 100% of the first can in the evacuated system as a liquid. Through the high side port with the engine stopped.