Automotive Air Conditioning Information Forum

2021 Sep 23 this was approved in 2021 Sep 23, EPA Production cut of 134a starts 2022 Jan 1
2021 Oct 134a price starts going up.

2022 Jan 1 10% production cut
2023 Jan 1 Same 10% production cut
2024 Jan 1 30% cut, makes a Total production cut 40%

2025 Jan 1 No more importing 30 lbs to or making 30 lbs jugs in the U.S.A.
Stores can sale what 30 lbs jugs they have

2026 Jan 1 Stores must sale ALL 30 LBS jugs by end of year Dec 31 2026


2027 Jan 1 NO more distribution or sale of 30lbs jugs, will need to rent a refillable cylinder
then use a cylinder exchange program for 134a,
2028 Jan 1
2029 Jan 1 30% cut, Total production cut 70%

This is clearly to unnecessarily force older cars off the road. Be careful who you vote for in any upcoming elections

tbirdtbird wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:08 am This is clearly to unnecessarily force older cars off the road.

Many older cars' a/c have quit working so to say they will be forced off the road in nonsense. When the cost to repair exceeds what a person is willing to pay, they will either live with it or sell it to someone who call tolerate the heat better.

In many cases, the only problem is low gas because of attrition, or a leak that is easily fixable. Remember the experts here say the most common reason for car AC to not work is low gas. (65%)
With the price of 134 thru the roof and thus regassing ridiculously expensive, that is breaking the backs of many consumers.

Why else would EPA so drastically cut production????? There are millions of cars out there that use and will use 134 for at least a decade more
I stand by my comment. You are free to believe what you choose.

You said you were almost out.....given the production cuts, it would be good advice to stock up now....except you don't believe EPA is doing this deliberately

Perhaps this is something else to consider, quoted in part from the MACS ACtion newsletter:

To help meet customer needs in the transition to lower-level Global Warming Potential (GWP) refrigerants, Chemours is expanding its Opteon YF capacity by about 40 percent at the company's Texas facility that opened in 2019. Since the new facility opened, the company's capacity for Opteon YF has more than tripled and is one of the world's largest R-1234yf production facilities. The Opteon YF refrigerant is now used in millions of vehicles and sold in thousands of retail stores around the world, with zero ozone depletion potential and a GWP that is significantly lower than the legacy refrigerants. By 2025, Chemours estimates that the company's low-GWP product line will eliminate a projected 325-million tons of carbon dioxide equivalent globally.