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Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:36 pm
by kenlou
My FSM agrees with Tim. 80% of 2 3/4 lbs

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:37 pm
by kenlou
I will call my local Chevy dealer tomorrow

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:08 pm
by Tim
The higher capacity listing is most likely for an A6 compressor, which this does not have. Also, there is or was enough refrigerant to engage the clutch if "All" the electrical was operating correctly. Jumping the clutch coil only provides data for a single system component.

The data I posted came from ALLData, 2023
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Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:22 pm
by kenlou
Thanks Tim. I am doing diagnostics on the bcm also

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:39 am
by kenlou
JohnHere
Kenny, it might be worth calling your local Chevrolet service department to see what they can tell you.
I called several and none can go back to 1986. They are all relying on ALLDATA. They polly know more about UFOs than the 86 Corvette.
So I am going with my GM Service Manual...which states 2 3/4 lbs R-12....which translates to 36 oz of R134 (80% amount of original R-12).

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:07 am
by tbirdtbird
Just FYI, the 80% number is not hard and fast...it may require closer to 90% to properly function. Bottom line, start with 80% and add from there as needed. Somewhere in the archives here is a procedure for charging an unknown system posted by bohica (Brad)

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:33 am
by kenlou
tbirdtbird
Just FYI, the 80% number is not hard and fast...it may require closer to 90% to properly function. Bottom line, start with 80% and add from there as needed.
Yes, I had heard that and that was my plan. Thanks.

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:35 am
by Tim
We're talking about a Vette here with an accumulator. The inlet and outlet on the evap should be close in temp. So charge to 80% and feel the difference. Slowly add more until they feel the same.

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:37 am
by kenlou
Tim
We're talking about a Vette here with an accumulator. The inlet and outlet on the evap should be close in temp. So charge to 80% and feel the difference. Slowly add more until they feel the same.
Thanks.Wanna buy a vette? :lol:

Re: 1986 Corvette R-12 to R-134a Conversion

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:52 am
by kenlou
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Does anyone know anything about the triangle shaped stamp on the GM R4 compressor body? Does it signify anything, polarity?