UPDATE 13 March 2025
Figuring I didn't have much to lose, I went ahead and charged the system with r134a. I know, I know... impatience will cost money down the line BUT the system worked. 38*F at the vents on a 94* day with 80ish humidity (if my weather app is to be trusted).
My next step is to get it evacuated, and then I'm going to do a proper job on the system. New hoses. Flush. New drier. Possibly move over to a parallel flow condenser. So I have two follow up questions:
1) I'm inclined to buy a crimper and rebuild the hoses myself. I've gotten quotes from online sources that can rebuild the hoses (using original fittings) for $600-700. I think i can do it myself for less (or at least the same). Any opinions on that?
2) The compressor is original and apparently still works. Should I just flush it, oil it and send it, or is it worth looking into a rebuild/seal kit?
Thanks again for the straight talk / guidance y'all provide.
Norm in NC
What To Do Next? R134 or R12
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Re: What To Do Next? R134 or R12
1. You certainly can make-up your own barrier hoses, but how much it will cost, I can't say. Tim at ACKits.com, this Forum's sponsor, can provide the appropriate tooling, then add-in the cost of materials, whatever they might be.
2. Note that you can't solvent-flush a compressor. Only multiple flushes with PAG or POE oil should be done. If I were you, I'd replace the compressor with a new one, along with all the other parts as mentioned, with the exception of the evaporator, which can be solvent-flushed in situ, making sure to remove the TXV beforehand.
2. Note that you can't solvent-flush a compressor. Only multiple flushes with PAG or POE oil should be done. If I were you, I'd replace the compressor with a new one, along with all the other parts as mentioned, with the exception of the evaporator, which can be solvent-flushed in situ, making sure to remove the TXV beforehand.
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Re: What To Do Next? R134 or R12
We only carry the high-end ATCO Crimper, which is usually not a DIY item.JohnHere wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:23 am 1. You certainly can make-up your own barrier hoses, but how much it will cost, I can't say. Tim at ACKits.com, this Forum's sponsor, can provide the appropriate tooling, then add-in the cost of materials, whatever they might be.
2. Note that you can't solvent-flush a compressor. Only multiple flushes with PAG or POE oil should be done. If I were you, I'd replace the compressor with a new one, along with all the other parts as mentioned, with the exception of the evaporator, which can be solvent-flushed in situ, making sure to remove the TXV beforehand.
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Re: What To Do Next? R134 or R12
Any suggestions as to a good DIY crimper?
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A USA company makes a good manual crimper complete with the most commonly used dies, model number 71550, for less than $200, although dies for reduced barrier hoses are extra-cost options.
The manual style is slower than the more costly hydraulic variants. But for home use, the former should be fully adequate. Then figure-in the cost of the hoses and miscellaneous hardware that you would need.
The manual style is slower than the more costly hydraulic variants. But for home use, the former should be fully adequate. Then figure-in the cost of the hoses and miscellaneous hardware that you would need.
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