Automotive Air Conditioning Information Forum

tbirdtbird wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm I would not try flushing a tube and fin condenser myself, especially after the guts of 2 comps got buried inside. You need megaflow and pressure to do it right.
For the record, we see a great many posters who write in just about what you wrote. They all have trashed out condensers, because they simply were not aware they needed to change it out. I myself did that same thing when I was in my 20s when I first started in AC. Well, that was a bad start, and many decades ago. Will never make that mistake again. Of course, R12 was 50 cents a can back then, so it was a relatively cheap fix

tbirdtbird wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm I would not try flushing a tube and fin condenser myself, especially after the guts of 2 comps got buried inside. You need megaflow and pressure to do it right.
For the record, we see a great many posters who write in just about what you wrote. They all have trashed out condensers, because they simply were not aware they needed to change it out. I myself did that same thing when I was in my 20s when I first started in AC. Well, that was a bad start, and many decades ago. Will never make that mistake again. Of course, R12 was 50 cents a can back then, so it was a relatively cheap fix

Tim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:46 am

jshaf00 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:46 am

Tim wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:35 pm Four Season reman compressors?

Just used their chart for oil capacity

So, are these new or reman compressors? If you're blowing debris with new compressors. You never got the system cleaned. And have continued to add more debris by destroying the new compressors. As others mentioned, the new condenser is toast now because all the debris filtered through it.

Not being harsh, sounds like an improper repair from the start which has added to continuing issues.

These systems will work well. As John mentioned, I would not swap over to a VA system.

Tim wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:35 pm Four Season reman compressors?

tbirdtbird wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:14 pm I would not try flushing a tube and fin condenser myself, especially after the guts of 2 comps got buried inside. You need megaflow and pressure to do it right.
For the record, we see a great many posters who write in just about what you wrote. They all have trashed out condensers, because they simply were not aware they needed to change it out. I myself did that same thing when I was in my 20s when I first started in AC. Well, that was a bad start, and many decades ago. Will never make that mistake again. Of course, R12 was 50 cents a can back then, so it was a relatively cheap fix

JohnHere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:12 am

jshaf00 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:38 am It is a good tube and fin condenser i did spend a good amount of time carefully flushing it, and all the lines and hoses and the hoses are new. really the only thing that was not new is the condenser. the compressor is supposedly a new manufacture compressor ( H4 pancake supposedly optimized for134) it has a lifetime warranty out of orielly's. im just thinking that perhaps the compressor just doesnt have what it takes to handle the situation and i am kinda of kicking the ball around to just waiting till ive got the money to just update the entire system to like a vintage air unit, or other like kit. ive spent quite a bit of money on trying to make this system go, parts, flushing tools and solvent, vacuum pump, gauges ect. and im kinda disappointed. so maybe it would just be better to save for an update. i dont know.

If it were mine, I would keep the system stock (with the possible exception of the condenser) instead of going to a new aftermarket system. I don't think you mentioned which compressor it had originally, but your truck came with either an A6 or an R4. The specs that I have list 44 ounces of R-12 and 10 ounces of Mineral Oil for the A6; 44 ounces of R-12 and 8 ounces of Mineral Oil for the R4.